Change Management Software

[Guest.Visitor]

Anybody have any ideas on some good change management software? Like for tracking/managing multiple versions of the same program ,managing major projects, auto compiling all logicals for a given physical, finding every occurence of a string in source members, etc? I have heard of Aldon but that's about it. Thanks, Martin

[daly.michael@verizon.net]

"Implementer" is one that's always been at the top of my list. It used to be sold by Silvon Software, but they recently sold it to another company, I don't know it's name. src="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Grid/1212/images/Freshpt80.gif"width ="140" height="25"> The Fresh Produce Specialists

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[David Abramowitz]

Soft Landing is another package, and IBM has it's own change management package that integrates with PDM. The problem is in the deciding. All of the packages are very good. A decision among these packages usually comes down to a particular requirement that can only be met by one of the vendors. I would suggest that you weigh your requirements against the many features that each vendor offers. David Abramowitz

[frankgw@adelphia.net]

On Monday, November 23, 1998, 06:54 PM, David Abramowitz wrote: All of the packages are very good. A decision among these packages usually comes down to a particular requirement that can only be met by one of the vendors. I would suggest that you weigh your requirements against the many features that each vendor offers. ************************************************** ******************** David - I'm curious. Which package do you use and why? With multiple clients how do you keep from jumping from package A on day 1 to package B on day 2 etc...? Multiple clients have always been a reason that I have personally stayed with the basic IBM Application Development Tool Set. Actually it would be interesting to here what others have to say about tools in general and if and where they do see real cost saving benefits. Here's a chance for tool advocates to give the rest of us a valuable lesson. Just an old mainframer caught in the Web!

[vrozen1]

On Tuesday, November 24, 1998, 04:41 AM, Frank Whittemore wrote: Actually it would be interesting to here what others have to say about tools in general and if and where they do see real cost saving benefits. Here's a chance for tool advocates to give the rest of us a valuable lesson. I work with both Aldon(A) and Implementer(I) and I use (I) now. I preferred (A) - I found less bug there than in (I). Also (A) provide Harmonizer and SCompare tools which are really useful in development and troubleshooting. There are 1 funny bug that I found in (I): I created program, which must include 2 modules: 1 that I wrote and another QTCP/QtmmSendMail. I include both module in binding directory. When I tried to promote it ended abnormally. The problem was that (I) includes *LIBL/QtmmSendMail in BNDSRVPGM keyword automatically, but QTCP was not part of environment. I found way to promote, but it is a bug.

[David Abramowitz]

On Tuesday, November 24, 1998, 04:41 AM, Frank Whittemore wrote: David - I'm curious. Which package do you use and why? With multiple clients how do you keep from jumping from package A on day 1 to package B on day 2 etc...? Multiple clients have always been a reason that I have personally stayed with the basic IBM Application Development Tool Set.

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From time to time I have worked with all of them except the IBM package. I have at times, developed my own, and at one shop used the ASI (American Software, Inc.) multi-source method. It really depends on the size of the shop. For many small shops, a change management package may not be necessary at all. For larger shops with greater levels of bureaucracy, a more sophisticated package is required. I like Silvon's Implementer because of the integration feature with Hawkeye's Pathfinder. When distibuting promoted software to multiple AS/400s, all of the packages I have worked with are very good. For maintaining audit trails, and rollbacks, once again, all are very good. And for reformatting changed data files through various levels and permutations, all are very good. Currently I am using my own stuff at two shops, while at a third smaller shop no change management package is used. David Abramowitz

[Guest.Visitor]

Thank you all for you suggestions & insights. Martin

[Guest.Visitor]

We use ADM from IBM for 3 years now. Does all we need well. Automatic compiles of all affected parts, version management, check-out & check-in, promote etc. 1 point for improvement on my wish-list: support for non-source parts is poor (*QRYDFN, sample data). Besides, it integrates with Code/400 (PC development environement). I can recommend it. PS: check thru earlier threads (AS400 applications); it's been discussed Regards, Martin.

[Guest.Visitor]

Thanks for the information, Martin. Cool name you got there by the way! Martin Carpenter