OV Calendaring Problem

[Guest.Visitor]

We have 3 (SYSA, SYSC and SYSD) AS/400's with OV/400 running on each. We also have a fourth system (INET) running native Domino. User ABC001 uses OV on SYSA; user DEF001 uses OV on SYSD. User DEF001's directory entry has been changed to route e-mail to Lotus Notes on INET. If ABC001 schedules a meeting on user DEF001's calendar via OV/400 (we do not use Lotus Notes Caledar Connector), a message stating a meeting was scheduled is sent to DEF001's Lotus Notes Mail database. The meeting is not reflected anywhere. Not on SYSD (where is should) nor in Lotus Notes (this was expected). If we change the DEF001's directory entry to not route to Lotus Notes, the meeting shows up on DEF001's calendar. We want all messages to route to Lotus Notes but use OV/400 calendar. Is this possible? If anyone has any experience with this or has any ideas, please reply to this or send me an e-mail at ERConway@PDPGroupInc.com. Thanks in advance.

[Guest.Visitor]

We are not going to stay on OV any longer than we have to. IBM has lost another "loyal" AS400 only site to the dark side (MS). We have installed MS Outlook for email and MS Word for all our word processing. We are using a third party software from the Netherlands (ITP - www.aia.nl) to get our 400 data into Word docs. After many months of looking and trying, we decided Domino/Notes was not what we needed and was too costly also. No one ever could really do what we wanted. They always wanted to show you what Notes could do. IBM has missed the boat totally on this one. We needed as400 data in doc s easily like OV, workflow sounds and looks cool but it does not help our business letters. Extending the OV deadline does not cut it. Sorry IBM. 3 words I thought I would never say have come to pass this year in our shop: Network, MS and NT.

[Guest.Visitor]

What a shame IBM never took the time (or effort) to improve OV/400. I have received one response to my 7/99 article, and that was from an individual who wanted to plug his companies' product. It would have been far more gratifying to have heard from IBM. Evidently you are not, and will be not alone. Dave

[frankgw@adelphia.net]

Check out this web site for IBM's annoucement of the new AS/400e Dedicated Server for Domino http://www.as400.ibm.com/news/dsd1.htm I wonder how and where this fits into the Death of OfficeVision puzzle. Also, check out IBM's July issue of AS400 magazine. There is yet another article on this subject starting on page 8 titled "Movin' On Up". Here's a quote - "V4R5 should be supported until late 2001, but V5R1 is expected in the third quarter of 2000, so some customers may have to make the transition before then.

[Guest.Visitor]

What would be the reason for not having a network at this point? Isn't NT alright for your desktops? Don't tell me you are still on OS/2?

[Guest.Visitor]

First of all David...excellent article on the OV death in MC last month. I for one am glad someone finaaly put into print wht we were going thru all along. To the last post..no we are not OS2. We just never had a need or desire from management for a network. We were all green screen. Now we are still peer to per for now. We got email and internet access and working on OV to Word conversion. NT appears to be in the cards as we want imaging and we are in dire need of some easier way of backup of pc docs etc..

[Guest.Visitor]

I have three clients whose setup is as follows:

1. AS/400 operates as a standalone unit
2. Recently converted from OS/2 to Netware. Used primarily so end users can sign on to the mainframe and the AS/400 using the same software (PC Communications) also used for internal E-mail.
3. Has a LAN only to connect the AS/400 to the internet. There is no NOS in place (i.e.) no NT, no netware, no Lantastic, No OS/2, no nuttin'.

All three are doing very well. Dave

[Guest.Visitor]

My apologies........ I guess my sarcasm about NT and the network being necessary didn't post well.

[Guest.Visitor]

I find the debate is interesting to watch, not only from the perspective of the press, but from the angle that Lotus is now working. Realistically, Lotus has seen the writing on the wall for some time. It's not that they don't believe in their own product, but that they recognize that any time Microsoft focuses on an application suite it's almost impossible to stop them from dominating. Microsoft's muscle in packaging Exchange with Back Office is the same muscle in packaging IE with Windows 98. It's something that users can't resist: free software. So anyway, what Lotus has done is recognize that the terms "Email server" and "Collaborative computing" have been coopted by Microsoft, and they start to aim at a new market strategy, and focus their development efforts on that. Lotus' new market strategy? It's Knowledge Management. That's all their web site talks about. However, what's really interesting is that message is not being transfered to IBM AS/400 division. The new DSD is an example. Instead of focusing on Lotus' message of Knowledge Management, the AS/400 group is trying to compete against NT on the email front. Meanwhile, most customers are still unclear about the power of R5 Domino. They don't understand how workflow could help them, and they don't understand how Knowledge Management in the form of Lotus Notes/Domino would work for them. It's an interesting dilemma. Will IBM align its message with Lotus and go hunting for bear before Microsoft realizes that the ground is shifting?

[J.Pluta]

However, what's really interesting is that message is not being transfered to IBM AS/400 division. The new DSD is an example. Instead of focusing on Lotus' message of Knowledge Management, the AS/400 group is trying to compete against NT on the email front. Meanwhile, most customers are still unclear about the power of R5 Domino. They don't understand how workflow could help them, and they don't understand how Knowledge Management in the form of Lotus Notes/Domino would work for them. It's an interesting dilemma. Will IBM align its message with Lotus and go hunting for bear before Microsoft realizes that the ground is shifting? I think they will and in fact already are. IBM is committing to the concept of "e-business", which includes integration of the entire information suite. Email is only a single segment of the entire range, which spans from web serving to e-commerce. By claiming a cradle-to-grave knowledge solution, they level the application playing field (or at least close the gap considerably), moving the fight to security, reliability and scalability, where the AS/400 wins without a fight. While it may not yet be the corporate battlecry, I think e-business is an excellent focus and IBM's best strategy. www.zappie.net, where the AS/400 speaks Java with an RPG accent Home of href="//www.zappie.net/java/techniques/pbd.htm">PBD1.2P, the color=red>FREE Java/400 Client/Server Toolkit