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    Is newsgroup access turned on yet? I can't connect with my new signon and password. I refuse to use the website for the forums. It's slow and the advertisements are more than intrusive. Bill

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    I also _much_ prefer to use a newsgroup to access the forums. Got my fingers crossed that newsgroup access is planned, and it's just not setup right yet.

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    • #3
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      I too am looking for newsgroup access. Web forums are way too slow.

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      • #4
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        As newsgroups are a bit "dated", we have finally got an RSS feed working for the forums. Just click the orange RSS feed button in the bottom right of this forum and you can subscribe to this forum and get all of the posts to your RSS reader. Hopefully this will be helpful to you. Thanks for your patience as we worked out this issue.

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        • #5
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          OK, that subscribes me, I think, to just this single forum, in Internet Explorer. That's not what I want. RSS in entirely new to me, so bear with me. Thunderbird says it can do RSS, but it needs an URL to subscribe. What's the URL? How do I look at all the forums available and decide which I want?

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          • #6
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            Yes, you can subscribe to an RSS feed using MANY different RSS readers. Internet Explorer has a simple RSS feature built in, but there are readers you can get from Google, Yahoo, and tons of other places. You do need a URL to provide the reader. For this Forum feed, the url to provide a RSS reader is: http://www.mcpressonline.com/index2....l=1&Itemid=558 This RSS page is not intended necessarily for viewing, but for providing the necessary data to your reader. This feed will subscribe you to the entire forum so you can get all of the latest posts. We are currently working on a way to allow a similar subscription to individual areas of the forum. Thanks.

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            • #7
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              I put that URL into Thunderbird and it 'worked'. I put 'worked' in quotes because now, instead of having to load a web page to view a single thread, I get to reload the web page for each _message_ in the thread. This is the opposite of what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a fast, efficient way to look at messages. Web forums and web pages ain't it. Call me dense, but I don't understand how this is a replacement for newsgroup access.

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              • #8
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                Newsgroups may be dated if we go by their age, but to write them off by decreeing that since they are old they are no longer used or useful is shortsighted and inaccurate. I strongly urge you to enable the newsgroup feature if available.

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                • #9
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                  Just tried to load the RSS feed into Thunderbird via the Subscribe button which appears on the page when the RSS button is clicked. Doesn't work. Had to load it into Firefox's Live Bookmarks, then find the page that is referenced and then load that into Thunderbird.

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                  • #10
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                    B.Robins - First, no one ever "decreed" that newsgroups are no longer used or useful. All I said is that they were "dated" which is entirely true. I had not even heard the word newsgroups for who knows how long until reading this post Second, all you need for a RSS reader is the URL that I provided in my post. The url you gave gives the same result as my url does. I'm editing your post to remove the url to avoid confusion. Either will work but there is no need for having two posted. The only difference is the Itemid on the end, which does not affect the RSS in the first place. We are working on further subscription enhancements so watch for them. I have not personally used Thunderbird but there are so many different options available for RSS readers as it is such a popular solution and used on just about every website you come across these days. Anyway, thank you for your comments and input.

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                    • #11
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                      I tried the RSS feed in Thunderbird, and I guess it's ok if all I want to do is see what new things have been posted. If there is nothing in interesting, it will save me coming to the web page trying to figure out if there is anything new. Here are the things it doesn't do, that I can do with a newsreader: - Show me the order the messages were posted - Show the correct thread heirarchy (one "thread" for this topic is created for B.Robins, one for jlcrosby, one for NathanDTW, and the order within the "thread" is either random, or upside down) - Let me reply to a message - Let me sort by the person who posted the message (everything is posted by "MC Press Online Forum" )

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                      • #12
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                        I have the same experience. RSS is in no way a substitute for newsgroups, for all the reasons you cite. My guess is no newsgroup access ever was planned, deliberately, because then you don't have to come to the website and see the ads. When newsgroup access was available, I was here every day reading. Without it, I will be history in very short order. These web forums just take way too much time. It's the reason I don't read the system i network forums either. -Jeff

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                        • #13
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                          It should be noted that the value or usefulness of many things are not related to the date of conception of those things. When it comes to these fora, their usefulness may be measured by the flow of ideas eminating from a variety of participants. As the number of participants diminish, so does the value of the fora. Eventually there will be no participation, and the fora will have no value. So. . . . .Whether newsgroups are dated or not is irrelevant. The point to be made is that the newsgroups were useful. These new fora are not. Please return the old technology. The previous participants have passed judgement with their feet. New participants do not appear to be on the horizon. Please return to newsgroup technology so that the participant base may also return. Dave

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                          • #14
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                            Ok...I finally have to ask this question. Was this whole new website put through any User acceptance beta testing? Any at all? If so, Who are they? And what ever made them sign-off on this functionality...er I should say...Functionality, as the lack thereof...??? Sorry, I'm slow to judge, but based on my experiences on this new site, and the critical posts about this site from other well known attendees...I'm guessing this website went through NO USER ACCEPTANCE testing or taret-audience-approval whatsoever. This should be taken as a direct SLAM to the web-heads that did this. Not the customer (MC) who paid for it. Folks, all programmers, all platforms, and all languages...IF YOU DON'T GET USER ACCEPTANCE at any level...DON'T ROLL IT OUT! Unless you like dealing with post implementation DISASTERS. Which is how I describe the recent history of what happened to this, The former best AS/400, ISeries, and formerly the world's best IBM midrange info and Q&A site. GONE! Because nobody remembered the tried and true best way to implement NEW stuff to any User community. Get the target audience to beta test it, get the feedback, fix it, and then you have a good basis for Rolling it out. Without that, You have what a couple of web-developers thought was pretty good. I'll bet they didn't go over the old site with any attention to current functionality. They at least could've gotten a grip on the existing functionality that worked so well before this web-disaster.

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                            • #15
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                              I may be at or very near to my last visit and/or post to this site. Regretfully it doesn't look like any attention is being paid to the feedback they are getting through these forums about the new website. But I can assure you this...The number of hits on this site must be tumbling downward so fast, they will soon be counting the number of DAYS or WEEKS passed between posts. How's that working for your advertisers MC...???

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