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    Mike said: "Many of you seem to have exchanged your roles as IT Professionals for that of ...Financial Analysts. No wonder some of you are getting a little testy." Well, I do have an MBA and I am a VP so I've always considered my role to be a businessman first and an IT Professional second. chuck Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of my employer.

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    Let's not give up our Day-Time Jobs just yet

    Mike said "Many of you seem to have exchanged your roles as IT Professionals for that of Political/Military/Financial Analysts. No wonder some of you are getting a little testy. We work with Computers. And Why?? Because were not smart enough to do anything else!! So, mix up another batch of those Brownies, lighten up and stop trying to solve the problems of the world." Well first and foremost I am an American, yes an IT Professional by trade. If I am not aware of the problems of the world then I am contributing to the problems. The biggest problem is apathy. People like you have the philosophy that "it isn't my problem". That is the same attitude that has brought about the whole in the ozone, Saddam being in office for as long as he has, the drug cartels taking over (or at least controlling behind the scenes) governments in order to manufacture and sell their products, teen pregnancy, etc. If the problems in the world are not the problems of the inhabitants of the world then who's problems are they. Who is supposed to solve them. And second, I am not nor are my colleagues not smart enough to do anything else. Regardless whether you were joking or not, the statement itself is very offensive to some (me included). I believe most of us in the IT Profession are very intelligent. Just MY 2 Cents

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      Let's not give up our Day-Time Jobs just yet

      Glen asked: "Who is supposed to solve them." As to the problem of "Saddam being in office for as long as he has" I agree. It took way too long for us to react. The whole world was apathetic to this problem just as they were to Hitler. Fortunately, the U.S. had enough b*lls to step in this time. As to the problem of "That is the same attitude that has brought about the whole in the ozone" While there are very smart people in the world I believe that they aren't smart enough to know the reason for the hole in the ozone. They've used the "cause and effect" principle to state that if it happens in the lab then it happens in the massively large scale. There are problems with that method. It only creates a theory. For all we know the atmosphere gets a hole in the ozone every 10,000 years. As to the problem of "drug cartels taking over" That's just a result of supply and demand. Too many Americans think it is their right and privilege to snort/inject/take illegal drugs. My apathy has little to do with the drug problem. As to the problem of "teen pregnancy" Well, don't even get me started on that one. Teen pregnancy is a result of neglected teenagers reaching out for affection and emotional bond. They don't get that at home and so they are promiscuous and need acceptance, any kind of acceptance, from someone. If they were given the proper upbringing and shown the proper love at home this problem would be dramatically reduced. I doubt it'll ever go away, though. (I have 3 teenage daughters so I do have some experience here.) We've created a society where the role model is to sit home and collect welfare while popping out kids. More kids, more welfare. As a manager, the edict "behavior is a direct result of what you reward" is something I live by. Reward people to sit on the couch and have kids and that's what they'll do. As to the problem of "Who is supposed to solve them." Well, certainly it isn't the politicians. Their incentive is to do whatever is necessary to get reelected. Today it takes a lot of money to get reelected. That means lobbyists have a lot of power. I admit that it's a daunting task to get involved. I've spent my energies making sure that my own kids don't do drugs, don't have unwanted pregnancies and make sure their life is successful. I only ask that other fathers do the same. I find it galling that I'm asked to take on those same tasks for a father who is irresponsible. chuck Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of my employer.

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        Let's not give up our Day-Time Jobs just yet

        Many of you seem to have exchanged your roles as IT Professionals for that of Political/Military/Financial Analysts. No wonder some of you are getting a little testy. We work with Computers. And Why?? Because were not smart enough to do anything else!! So, mix up another batch of those Brownies, lighten up and stop trying to solve the problems of the world. Now allow me to throw in my 2 cents on the War on Terror and Healthcare. On the Future of The War on Terror: The fiscal irresponsibility of California, combined with the presence of WMDs (Wacko Media Deviants) presents a clear and present danger to the Union. Despite lack of congressional approval, Utah leads a loose coalition of states in a pre-emptive strike. NoCal, harboring years of resentment over disputes concerning water rights, secedes from SoCal, joins the coalition and immediately turns off the Spigot. SoCal, unable to import Water as cheaply as Labor or Steel, quickly exhausts its supply of Perrier and succumbs. Once hostilities cease, a well-known Senator from NY, though ambivalent about the incursion, insists that her state should play a major role in the rebuilding process. Although no bids are accepted, the Senator promptly awards the statewide chicken contract to Tyson. Opponents of the decision cry fowl, when soon thereafter, Tyson is accused of over-charging Californians by as much as $1.50 per chicken. Im sure that as long as we are fighting among ourselves, we would be applauded by the International community. We might even get the support of the French. And on the Topic of Boutique Doctors: For $2,000/year you can own a .16% (1/600th) interest in your favorite doctor. Sounds a little pricey to me. But think of the possibilities if we treated the Docs like racehorses. That same Two thousand dollars a year might buy a 5% interest in a young resident. With the proper training and a little luck, in a few years your horse becomes a Top Specialist. Sell your shares to a rich octogenarian and retire! Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays God Bless America and God Bless our Troops Mike Savino

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          Let's not give up our Day-Time Jobs just yet

          Chuck, I was using those extremes as an example of us (people in general) not getting more involved with what is happening in the world. If we (again people in general) took a more active role in what was happening not only in our own homes, but in our communities, states, countries, and world then I believe we would not have some of the major problems we have today. I know it may be a very optimistic view, but look at the problems in the world today (and in America) what are the ads on the radio, tv, newspapers saying "get involved". I don't believe this is just an America problem I think the problem of people not wanting to get involved is world wide. That is why I used such extreme examples. It seemed to me that the original post was saying don't get involved. Keep your head down and just deal with what is right in front of you. To me that is the philosophy that allowed a Hitler or Saddam or any other Tyrant (or if I may evil individual) get to the point of power. That is why drug dealers and gangs get away with their criminal activity. That is why we have such a high teenage pregnancy and suicide rate. I am not saying there are not people that do get involved with their families, in regards to teen pregnancy and suicid. I try my best and I can honestly say I've had my failures and successes. I do know a lot of families that don't get involved with there own children (too many) let alone get involved with anything in their community, etc. Look at the U.S. we have such a low turnout in voting (in comparison to the population) because people don't believe there single vote can make a difference. Then we had the fiasco in Florida where we are shown a single vote does and can matter. It is basically my opinion that if everybody were to get more involved with their family, community, state, country, and the world then we as the inhabitants of planet Earth would all benifit. I do have very idealistic ideas but I'm also a realist. Now adays it is simply hard enough keeping up with what is happening in our own families. I just believe we should be more involved. Make the time to get involved, include the family members in getting involved. Okay, now I've given 4 cents instead of 2. I'll get off my soapbox and come down to reality.

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            Let's not give up our Day-Time Jobs just yet

            Glen, Your post is well thought out and I agree whole heartedly with your message. chuck Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of my employer. "Glen Kerner" wrote in message news:6ae8c9f9.3@WebX.WawyahGHajS... > Chuck, > > I was using those extremes as an example of us (people in general) not getting more involved with what is happening in the world. If we (again people in general) took a more active role in what was happening not only in our own homes, but in our communities, states, countries, and world then I believe we would not have some of the major problems we have today. > > I know it may be a very optimistic view, but look at the problems in the world today (and in America) what are the ads on the radio, tv, newspapers saying "get involved". I don't believe this is just an America problem I think the problem of people not wanting to get involved is world wide. > > That is why I used such extreme examples. It seemed to me that the original post was saying don't get involved. Keep your head down and just deal with what is right in front of you. > > To me that is the philosophy that allowed a Hitler or Saddam or any other Tyrant (or if I may evil individual) get to the point of power. That is why drug dealers and gangs get away with their criminal activity. That is why we have such a high teenage pregnancy and suicide rate. > > I am not saying there are not people that do get involved with their families, in regards to teen pregnancy and suicid. I try my best and I can honestly say I've had my failures and successes. I do know a lot of families that don't get involved with there own children (too many) let alone get involved with anything in their community, etc. > > Look at the U.S. we have such a low turnout in voting (in comparison to the population) because people don't believe there single vote can make a difference. Then we had the fiasco in Florida where we are shown a single vote does and can matter. > > It is basically my opinion that if everybody were to get more involved with their family, community, state, country, and the world then we as the inhabitants of planet Earth would all benifit. > > I do have very idealistic ideas but I'm also a realist. Now adays it is simply hard enough keeping up with what is happening in our own families. I just believe we should be more involved. Make the time to get involved, include the family members in getting involved. > > Okay, now I've given 4 cents instead of 2. I'll get off my soapbox and come down to reality.

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